Comments on: Will Bespin really end up with multiple backends?

By: mahemoff

mahemoff — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:55:47 +0000

@Don, @Dion Thanks for your feedback – I hope it happens, for purely selfish reasons I love the idea of self-hosting my personal projects and being able to use the same IDE in the enterprise, where Java is the more likely choice.

@Alexander EC2 might be okay for a startup or SME, but for my personal projects, its setup is ridiculously complicated and non-standard. It also costs a minimum of $72/month, a non-starter for most individuals and open-source projects. Maybe there are better options out there, but I’m not aware of anything matching the convenience of running up a PHP framework like WordPress or MediaWiki.

By: Alexander Klimetschek

Alexander Klimetschek — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:25:39 +0000

Java hosting is notoriously painful compared to the ease of cheap PHP hosting

This is no longer true since Amazon Webservices and co.

By: Don Brown

Don Brown — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:59:38 +0000

I wrote a post on why I think a Java backend is a good idea, and it indirectly illustrates why multiple backends are a good idea. Part of what Mozilla and Bespin are doing is throwing ideas and code out in the community to spark innovation, which generally comes from seeing an idea and tweaking it for a slightly different different use case that the original authors didn’t have in mind. By not getting too wrapped up in http://bespin.mozilla.com as the end goal of Bespin and encouraging multiple backends, Bespin could go in all sorts of new directions that ultimately benefits the community.

I think your main point is a significant engineering cost to having multiple backends on the part of the project, let alone the backend developer, which I completely agree with. The good news is Ben and Dion seem to be willing to take it on, here’s to hoping for a future with many flavors of Bespin.

By: Dion Almaer

Dion Almaer — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:46:35 +0000

Hi mate

Ben talked about the published API. From the beginning Bespin has meant many things, and being Mozilla each piece is very open.

We have had a few people work on PHP, Ruby, Python, and Java servers (that we know of). Although our team is too small to invest in multiple servers, we want to be enablers.

Also, Bespin will be able to talk to multiple servers. I would love to be able to launch Bespin and edit my local files, files on bespin.mozilla.com and on other sites such as Github and the like.

Cheers,

By: Multiple Bespin Servers? « Ben Galbraith’s Blog

Multiple Bespin Servers? « Ben Galbraith’s Blog — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:35:56 +0000

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